Syria Daily, Sept 24: US Missiles Hit Insurgents, Kill Civilians, Upset the Opposition

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Audio Analysis: The Questions About the US Attacks

UPDATE 1900 GMT: A march in Maarat al-Numan in Idlib Province on Wednesday, expressing solidarity with the Islamist faction Jabhat al-Nusra after it was attacked by US missiles:

And another expression of support:


UPDATE 1420 GMT: In his speech to the UN General Assembly, President Obama is framing the campaigns in Syria and Iraq against the Islamic State as part of a War on Terror, linking the jihadists to earlier enemies:

It is time for the world — especially Muslim communities — to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of Al Qa’eda and the Islamic State.

Obama briefly refers to US airstrikes and then speaks of cutting funding to the jihadists, “contesting the space that terrorists occupy – including the Internet and social media”, and combating radicalization with education and institutions for “new bridges of understanding”.

He also says that “America is training and equipping the Syrian opposition to be a counterweight to the terrorists of the Islamic State and the brutality of the Assad regime”, while calling for “an inclusive political transition that responds to the legitimate aspirations of all Syrian citizens, regardless of ethnicity or creed”.


UPDATE 1320 GMT: The insurgent faction Jaish al-Mujihadeen criticizes US airstrikes as “meant to put down the rebellion”:


UPDATE 1310 GMT: National Reconciliation Minister Ali Haidar said US airstrikes are going in the “right direction”, with Damascus informed in advance.

“As for the raids in Syria, I say that what has happened so far is proceeding in the right direction in terms of informing the Syrian government and by not targeting Syrian military installations and not targeting civilians,” Haidar said.

He added that Damascus is still watching events with caution.


UPDATE 1305 GMT: Fighters of Jabhat al-Nusra say the group has evacuated its bases in populated parts of Idlib Province in northwest Syria after it was hit by US airstrikes on Tuesday.

American missiles reportedly killed at least 14 civilians and 10 Jabhat al-Nusra fighters in Kafar Daryan in Idlib. Another 50 fighters were reportedly slain near Aleppo.


UPDATE 1255 GMT: US Central Command says it carried out another airstrike on Wednesday against the Islamic State, hitting the jihadists northwest of Al Qa’im along the Iraq border.

The US military also carried out four strikes in Iraq — two west of Baghdad and two southeast of the Iraqi Kurdistan capital Erbil in northern Iraq.

The statement said the attacks destroyed two Islamic State armed vehicles, eight other vehicles, a weapons cache, and fighting positions

About 20 airstrikes have been carried out across Syria since Tuesday.


UPDATE 1110 GMT: Unnamed “US intelligence officials” have put out further claims to justify Tuesday’s missile attacks on the “Khorasan Group”:

The group has been working with bomb makers from Al Qa’eda’s Yemen affiliate to perfect explosives that can fool Western airport security measures, including, one official said, a bomb in a toothpaste tube.

The officials indicated that “Khorasan” and not the Islamic State had been decisive in the President’s to finally intervene in Syria with aerial attacks after 42 months of conflict:

Obama had resisted taking military action in Syria to avoid inadvertently helping President Bashar Assad, a leader the US would like to see gone. That changed, officials said, because intelligence showed that the Khorasan Group was in the final stages of plotting attacks against the US and Europe.

However, the officials gave differing accounts about the supposed threat. Two said there was no particular location or target, while another insisted that “plotting had reached a more advanced stage”.


UPDATE 0800 GMT: The Local Coordination Committees have updated Tuesday’s death toll from US airstrikes, raising the number killed in Kafar Daryan to 21 — 10 civilians and 11 Jabhat al-Nusra fighters.

The LCC also claims that an airstrike on al-Muhandiseen, near Aleppo, killed 50 Jabhat al-Nusra members.

The opposition group cites an attack in Homs Province — not listed by the US Department of Defense among its operations — which killed six Bedouins.

The LCC said 123 people died across the country on Tuesday. It said it had documented 72 of the American and allied airstrikes, covering northern, eastern, and central Syria.


Even as the US was declaring military success with Day 1 of its attacks in Syria on the Islamic State, the campaign was running into trouble with the Syrian opposition.

Tension rose over an apparent American attack — accompanied by US statements which were vague to the point of deception — on part of the insurgency, the Islamic faction Jabhat al-Nusra.

According to residents and activists as well as Jabhat al-Nusra, US Tomahawk missiles hit the group’s buildings and houses in Idlib Province in northwest Syria, killing civilians as well as fighters.

Local activists in the town of Kafer Daryan (see map) reported that 14 civilians were killed and eight wounded, identifying four of the dead and eight of the injured.

Five women and eight children were among the dead.

The US military said at least 25 missiles fired “west of Aleppo” were targeting the “Khorasan Group”, an organization which suddenly emerged last week in public statements by US intelligence services. The military said on Tuesday that Khorasan, allegedly led by an activist who knew of the 9-11 attacks before they occurred and was Al Qa’eda’s “senior representative” in Iran, was planning a large-scale attack on America.

However, there was no confirmation by the US that “Khorasan” suffered casualties. Instead, activists on social media said that a Jabhat al-Nusra fighter named Abu Yusuf al-Turki.

Aftermath of the attack:

The destruction in the area:

Jabhat al-Nusra is designated as a terrorist organization by the US because of its leadership’s connections with Al Qa’eda, so the US military may not have shed tears if their attacks on “Khorasan” also damaged the Islamist organization.

However, the group is also a key element in the Syrian insurgency. It fights alongside main blocs such as the Free Syrian Army and the Islamic Front, even if it is not part of those groups.

So the General Staff of the Free Syrian Army put out a coded criticism of the US airstrikes last night, “emphasizing the need to to avoid targeting moderate national and Islamic Forces and unarmed civilians”. The Staff also called for a priority on attacks on “the forces of tyranny and the patrons of extremism” of the Assad regime as well as on the Islamic State.

The Staff’s declaration was reinforced by statements from divisions of the Free Syrian Army.

Harakat Hazm, a brigade supported by the US to the point of receiving anti-tank weapons, warned of a “harbinger of failure” in the “external intervention” — especially if the aerial campaign was not matched by a ground offensive on both the Islamic State and Syrian forces.

Meanwhile, the Local Coordination Committees stressed the “necessity of coordinating with the political and military forces of the Syrian revolution so they can regain control of the positions that the Islamic State has conquered, as well as helping these forces with their continuous battles against Assad’s regime until it is toppled”.


Islamic State Steps Up Attacks Near Kurdish Center of Kobane in Northern Syria

Despite Tuesday’s airstrikes and missiles, the Islamic State has reportedly increased its pressure on the Kurdish center of Kobane in northern Syria, near the Turkish border.

Ocalan Iso, deputy leader of Kurdish forces in Kobane, said, “The number of their fighters has increased, the number of their tanks has increased since the bombardment of Raqqa,” the largest city held by the Islamic State.

Iso said Islamic State unit are within 8 km (5 miles) of the southern periphery of Kobane.

Iso’s claims were supported by reports on social media of the Islamic State’s capture of grain silos and the village of Robey (see map), 10 km (6 miles) south of Kobane.

The Islamic State’s forces in the area were not targeted by Tuesday’s airstrikes. There are unconfirmed reports that jihadist positions were struck on Wednesday.

Assad Meets High-Level Iraqi Official, No Direct Mention of US Attacks

State media reports that President Assad on Tuesday met Iraq’s National Security Advisor, Faleh Fayyad, on Tuesday.

State news agency SANA makes no direct reference to the US attacks inside Syria. Instead, it says the two men “tackled counterterrorism efforts…[to] eliminate terrorist organizations in all their forms”.

However, there may be a coded reference to the American intervention in Assad’s statement “that Syria supports any international counterterrorism effort”.

Opposition: Regime “Toxic Gases” Attack North of Damascus Kills 7

Opposition activists are claiming a new regime toxic gas attack, this time on Adra, 12 miles north of Damascus. They claim seven people have died.

The Syrian military has stepped up bombardment of Adra, taken by insurgents in December 2013. It is also pursuing ground operations to try and enter the “Old Town” section.

US Ambassador to UN Justifies Attacks on Islamic State & “Khorasan”

The US Ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, has given a justification for the American attacks in a letter to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon.

Power said the US had begun operations against the Islamic State because it is using Syria as a “safe haven” for its offensive in Iraq, while it “initiated military actions in Syria against al-Qaida elements in Syria known as the Khorosan Group to address terrorist threats that they pose to the United States and our partners and allies”.


New York Times Runs US Line on “Khorasan”, Ignoring Attack on Insurgents and Civilian Casualties

Already, there is a striking divergence in media coverage of the airstrikes, with The New York Times putting out the US line on “Khorasan” and the British-based Financial Times questioning that narrative.

In The New York Times, Peter Baker channels the Administration position that the US attacks on the Islamic State tried to “simultaneously wipe out the leadership of an unrelated cell of veterans of Al Qaeda…[which] was plotting an ‘imminent’ attack against the United States or Europe”.

Baker framed the US missile strikes “west of Aleppo” — whose casualties appear to be civilians rather than fighters, let alone “Khorasan”: “Senior Obama administration officials expressed hope that they had killed Muhsin al-Fadhli, the leader of Khorasan and a onetime confidant of Osama bin Laden.”

Erika Solomon’s lead paragraphs in The Financial Times are far different:

In the course of Syria’s nearly four-year civil war, Ahmed Hamadi, an anti-regime rebel, often hoped western intervention would help his cause. But when it finally came, it killed his neighbours and their children.

“We asked for western strikes to come and support our fight to free Syria, not to kill us,” sighed the Army of Islam fighter. He described by phone how he pulled out the bodies of women and children from the wreckage of a residential building destroyed in the village of Kafr Daryan, about 50km west of Aleppo.

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    • I wonder who gave the US the relevant intelligence to attack this supposed “Al Qa’eda’s senior representative in Iran” so far from Islamic State territory?

      • Why assume that anybody needed to give the US intelligence for that strike? Last time I checked we have our own intelligence agencies with unique abilities. Sounds like you’re implying it was Iran given your support for that regime.

        • No, mullahs and their tentacles are trying so hard to say they are moderate, and fight the extremes along with the rest of the world.

          Well, only if the world could forget mullahs sponsorship of terrors, execution of political oppositions, rapes in the islamic republic, beatings, stonings, the thugs on motorcycle harassing citizens,etc, etc….

  1. POLITICO MAGAZINE: Obama Must Strike Assad, Too. Bombing ISIL isn’t enough. The real problem is the Syrian regime.

    In fact, since Assad’s air force doesn’t need to bomb ISIS at all now, the Genocide Regime can use its entire airforce to barrel bomb Sunnis and attack the rebels when the latter are fighting ISIS. I wouldn’t doubt that’s exactly what Obama intended. Having voted for the scoundrel twice and having watched his endless betrayals and spineless behavior, I don’t trust him at all. Who does anymore?

    Erdogan is right to argue a No Fly Zone is essential to prevent the above.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/obama-must-strike-assad-too-111246.html#ixzz3ECwRtMwe

    DAMASCUS: A Genocide Regime assault on the Adra area has had no success but the regime itself suffered high casualties.–Paradoxy.

    KOBANE: ISIS forces near Kobane appear to be a major target in the second night of attacks with reports as A-10s and F16s from Turkey involved. ISIS should have more vulnerable heavy weapons in the area. Also getting hit: ISIS-controlled Al Bab. Coalition airstrikes supposedly hit five different locations in Aleppo.

    HAMA: Rebels have retaken Al-Zilaqiat checkpoint ( for the third time)

    McCLATCHY: Syrian rebels angry that strikes hit al Qaida ally but not the Genocide Regime.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/09/23/240813_syrian-rebels-angry-that-strikes.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

    • Assad now has a brand you new airforce and ships shooting cruise missiles for him. I understand pretty well the refusal to US strikes coming from moderate rebels. They already understood they gonna be screwed twice.

      • @caligola – So KSA, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Jordan signed up to be the air force for a Shia dictator in a neighboring country? There is no way Kerry and Obama could get all those Gulf countries to sign up if they weren’t given some assurances that Assad would be taken out as well.

        • I honestly think this is never gonna happen. Plus lets not fool ourselves KSA and UAE have a minimal role in these attacks. Iran is at stake who for the US is a much bigger problem than Assad. Look at the reaction today of more and more FSA groups condeming these attacks pleading to hit Assad too. Like this as of now Assad is enjoying a new airforce doing the hard job for him.

          • It really does depend on what’s happening with the training and especially arming of the FSA. Assad has to go, but the optimal solution (for the west, and arguably for Syria) is not for the west or the rebels to take him out, but for the rebels to conclusively demonstrate to the regime that Assad cannot win militarily. At that point, the regime supporters can be convinced to ditch the Assad family and negotiate some sort of power sharing arrangement.

            For the US and its allies to make that happen, they need to support the rebels enough to change the regime’s perspective, but not enough that they can win.

  2. Some confusion about the shootdown of a SAAF plane by Israel. EAWV and a number of press outlets reported yesterday that the downed plane was an Su-24. Al Jazeera and quite a few press outlets reported that the downed aircraft was a MiG-21. The video of the dual ejection didn’t resolve the question, since Assad has 2-seater modified trainer versions of the MiG-21 in inventory. But it seems that the fog of war has receded and that the plane was an Su-24.

    That’s a loss of an important regime asset and a gift to the rebels from Israel. The regime had 21 in inventory, having lost one previously to rebel ground fire. So it should now be down to 20. I assume a relatively high percentage of these craft are operational, given their overhaul, but as time goes on this will degrade. And the loss of each craft only increases the burden on those remaining.

    • “…a gift to the rebels from Israel.”

      A fighter jet is flighting from the east towards Israel’s territory, just 6 hours after a massive US and it’s allies bombings in Syria and Iraq.
      If you are the IDF, what would you do?

      • lol maybe attack the terrorists holding the syrian border with israel, or move back a bit from occupied land, and let the army take out Nusra.

        but thats is somehow crazy?

      • I wasn’t criticizing the IDF or suggesting that they shot down the plane for the purpose of helping the rebels. They did what they needed to do given the incursion into Israeli airspace. I only meant that the rebels are the beneficiaries of the destruction of the Su-24. And the benefit is greater than would have been the case had it been a MiG-21.

    • David; The SU-24 is a complex aircraft and needs a lot of maintenance. I would assume that at least one of these aircraft is in hanger queen status being used as a source for spare parts. I’m guessing the mission capable rate is around 70%.

      • That sounds like a reasonable guess to me. But 70% is much higher than the rate for the rest of the SAAF. Depending upon which source you believe, the average rate is 30-50%. I understand that the MiG-23s are in really bad shape. So the Su-24s are key.

  3. Assad claiming cooperation/coordination with the US, whether true or not, is not just intended for an international audience; it is intended to further divide and alienate the Syrian opposition.

    • Assuming this is internal politics also, both Assad an iran being excluded was quite a cold shower – and even worse is that Assads GCC enemies are in the coalition. Few pro-regime msg boards I’m following are all depressed and panicking about this, likely doesnt do any good for SAA morale either – thus need for propaganda that they’re involved somehow also.

    • The odd thing is all the pro-Syrian tweeters who don’t seem to have got the message and are denouncing the air strikes as a violation of international law.

      • @Ian

        lol. I agree. If I was on the side of the Syrian regime I would be trying to spin this as the US is coming to help Assad get rid of terrorists. They should be saying finally the US is answering our calls. Assad’s government is smart and that is how they are now spinning it. In reality, the only cooperation the US may have provided was letting the Syrian government know what flight paths they needed to ensure that the regime stay out of. Not really cooperation but a demand from the US coalition.

        Instead many pro-regime are denouncing the airstrikes and saying that this is a violation of international law. By doing so they are implicitly saying that the regime don’t want the US there and that the regime don’t have the capability to kick the US out.

  4. Assad army continue fiht terrorist sponsored by west.

    Army units targeted on Wednesday terrorists’ gatherings in Ein al-Baida, al-Jandoul, Deir Hafer, Qibtan al-Jabal, Oweijeh and the ancient city of Aleppo in Aleppo and its countryside, killing a number of them and destroying their vehicles.

    The army military operations west and north of al-Nairab, Kwairis and al-Ameriyeh resulted in the killing of scores of terrorists and the destruction of a car loaded with ammunition and a locally-made rocket launcher.

    Four cars for terrorists were also destroyed with all terrorists on board in al-Shaqif, Blas and on Aleppo-al-Zirbeh road during the army’s operations.

    Units of the armed forces killed a number of terrorists and injured others in a series of military operations against their gatherings and dens in the countryside of Quneitra southern province and in Damascus countryside.

    A military source told SANA that units of the armed forces destroyed gatherings of the armed terrorist organizations in the towns of Ovania, Jabbata al-Khashab , al-Hurria, Tranja and Mashara in Quneitra countryside, killing and injuring many terrorists and destroying a number of their motorcycles and vehicles which were equipped with heavy machineguns.

    The source added that another army unit targeted a den of terrorists in the town of Kum al-Basha, in addition to targeting a convoy of their cars between the towns of Breika and Kum al-Basha as a number of cars were destroyed along with all the ammunition onboard.

    Many terrorists were killed and others were wounded.

    In Damascus countryside, army units destroyed dens of terrorists with all the ammunition inside them to the south of Aqraba village, leaving many terrorists dead and destroying their vehicles

    Army units on Wednesday targeted terrorists’ gatherings in the villages of al-Khadra and Otira in the northern countryside of Lattakia, killing 17 terrorists, many of them are non-Syrians, and injuring others.

    A terrorist’s warehouse for rockets and a 23 mm cannon were also destroyed, according to a military source.

    The source added that terrorists Aos al-Zaki, nicknamed Hajaj al-Maghrib, the leader of Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist organization in Lattakia, Moroccan terrorist Milan Salwan, terrorist Mahmoud Baldeir, the general coordinator of the so-called Ahrar al-Sham terrorist organization and the Tunisian terrorists Asa’d Shukri and Bilal al-Aitoun were identified among the dead.

      • If I believed SANA then I would also have to believe the following.

        1. More Islamic terrorists have been killed than there are people in Syria (seriously count the number SANA claims the regime killed each day). ~20 million. This would put the rebel population at about negative 19.5 million.
        2. Not a single civilian has died as a result of the bombs dropped on terrorists.
        3. About 12 million people voted in the Assad election when there are 22 million people in Syria. Elections were only held in government held areas and not everyone single person is of voting age. A theoretical impossibility.
        4. Every normal person in Syria supports Assad just a few bums with mental illnesses don’t agree with Assad.

      • Caligola implies I’m extremely biased against the Genocide Regime and he is totally correct. What does not follow logically is that I therefore have no choice but to follow the Goebbels model favored by the regime and its allies (i.e., simply making news up). His implied charges of SANA-like lying indirectly charges my sources (Tazi Moroccco, Markito0171 and Paradoxy, etc.) with the same. Yet I’ve never known any of them to deliberately make things up as SANA, FARS and the Moscow Times does.

        One can be strongly biased against a Hitler or Assad without being dead-on accurate as to facts. Must I show moral neutrality simply because that is your preference. Play Walter Chronkite if you prefer, but don’t force it on me. I am not anchoring a network or writing an academic paper. I blend the fact checkable with personal analysis and opinion a la Chris Matthews and others (with whom I don’t agree re: Syria). You may see my analysis or my analysis as wrongheaded but I’m entitled. You are not my boss.

        Simply because my analysis or opinion does not coincide with yours) you’ve obviouslygot a bug up your xxx. Contrary to what you imply, my approach is muchdifferent from SANA, Genom, Fars-like or Russia Times. I do go beyond the BBC model in being an opinion piece as well. However when I prefer to call the current Syrian government the Genocide Regime” rather than the more neutral “Assad Regime,” isn’t the description as accurate as it would be in Hitler’s case? Could I have a purpose beyond spouting off? Spreading the term, in preference to Kerry-like neutral language, complicates things for politicians pondering alliance with such a regime openly or on the sly. As my post above shows, the latter is what Obama has done and cointinues to do, all denials to the contrary unless and until he shows me otherwise.

        When I disagree with a post, I usually respond specifically and explain why I disagree. If I don’t share your pessimism about doing in the regime, that’s no crime. Ironically, to the degree I share any pessimissim on that it’s for likely because you too expect \Obama’s repeated and ongoing attempts to backstab them will continue. Like the media types who had Assad winning just two months ago, I think you rely too much on transient, tactical battlefield victories (rare in themselves for the regime lately) while I look at underlying, long term strategic factors at work and give them much greater weight than you or media types do. The biggest factor working for Assad is Obama’s uncanny potentially to make the wrong decisions and double down on them. If the rebels lose and the Genocide Regime, Putin and Hezbollah prevail, America and its allies get hurt. If only Obama has saved the Bad Guys to date, only Obama can save them once again.

        My hefty and endless criticism of Obama infuriates some folks here. However it is not only accurate but–like the term “Genocide Regime”–serves a purpose: by drawing attention to how badly Obama has screwed up and continues to do so even now, it helps place pressure on a man notorious for turtle-like obstinacy in boneheaded policies and a belief the best way to solve problems is by letting things fester or by appeasing folks like Putin and Khamenei to the max. As prisoners say, “If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.”

    • The genocide army can’t fight its way out of a paper bag without outside help. It is only good at killing civilians. It resembles the South Vietnamese army and earns similar contempt. It will however be able to focus all its air power on rebels outside Aleppo or south of Idlib and temporarily benefit. The reasons for that are two-fold. First, the US is attacking ISIS so Assad’s Air Force doesn’t need to attack its old ally turned Frankenstein’s monster. Secondly Assad’s air force may have been warn away from Aleppo and other areas where US is attacking ISIS. Therefore, it has more to spare to attack moderate rebels elsewhere.

  5. Happening today:
    On 24 September 2014 the Anti-Terrorism Court will resume the trial of Mazen Darwish and his colleagues on accusations of “publicizing terrorist acts,” despite a general amnesty announced by the President in June 2014, that covers this and other offenses included in the Anti-Terrorism Law.
    http://free-syrian-voices.org/take-action/

  6. More FSA groups, even the ones supported from the same US, are today criticizing the US airstrikes asking that these strikes hit Assad forces too. They are not stupid they fully understood whats happening or worst what its to come. Unfortunately Obama gives zero about the syrian revo. This intervention is solely aimed at IS.

    • @caligola – Obama doesn’t care that much about the revolution in a silo. I agree with that. However, the IS problem is tied in with the revolution. Obama and his staff know this. That is why these airstrikes are coming along at the same time as the bill passed to arm the revolution. If Obama just takes out IS position and let’s the regime come in and take those positions from IS then that only fuels Sunni extremeism further. Syrians would flock to extremeism and my guess is that more extremeist groups would appear throughout Syria and Iraq. ISIS might be weakened but other extremeist groups would strengthen. Obama know this which is why I refuse to believe the US is stupid enough to act as Assad’s airforce. If I see overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I can be convinced otherwise.

      If Obama takes out ISIS where the rebels can take over on the ground then this defuels the extremeism fire. I give our government a bit more credit than a lot of people on this site.

      • Lets wait and see but as of the first 36hrs the US have just hitted IS, Nusra and Al- Sham. All the parties who were inflicting the highest casualities on the SAA. You spoke of jordan and KSA, they are in (minimum presence) just cuz they fear IS could move to them too if not degraded. Assad will NEVER be touched from these airstrikes, there is clearly cooperation between the two and it dident stop in telling Jaafari at the UN. What confirms my feelings is that today many FSA groups, even those sponsored from the west, are openly against US intervention if this doesnt hit Assad. They know perfectly well who risks to gain openely if the situation stay like this and i have the feeling the only strat US has is to degrade IS and disengage from Syria Asap.

    • Guess it’s the same as people who hold rallies for supporting that terrorist group called Hezbollah, or that terrorist group Hamas… kill them all right??

      By the way, Nasrallah wasn’t so happy in his speech last night, seemed like he didn’t trust the intentions of the Coalition though his syrian pals are claiming this is to fight terrorists only…

      I guess he may be afraid since there is no vote in the UN for it and so maybe they will target him in his rat hole soon. He may have to clip off his terrorist beard and run for it just like ISIS… in all cases he seemed scared of the coalition and his little boys that are captured by Jabhat al Nusra are not easy to negotiate for with this bombing.. so what do you think of all this, it’s just a quick question..

      • no its not, stop trying to compare IS to anything else in the world, even Al Qaeda is more reasonable.

        Hezbollah is like a liberal democracy compared to them.

        But then again if you are IS scum supporter, you would try that now wouldnt you

  7. So how does it feel to have 4 Saudi F16s, 4 UAE F16s, 2 Jordanian F15s, 2 Bahraini F 15s, just a question?

    These after Tomahawks and F22s took out ISIS buildings that Assad never tried hitting with his sloppy scuds or barrel bombs.

    1. Of course after this the Ass-ad regime would say America and the Arabs are helping us… the alternative would be admitting that they would be deathly afraid of hitting anyone planes plane and that they are weak and fear any retribution. Also it would be silly because Syria is only known to bark like a wild dog against the West, so it’s smarter to twist this into America helping Assad, than to say we said no to America but they don’t listen to us…

    2. Of course the opposition will also decry the strikes as not touching Assad and not helping them… the alternative would be to say this is enough, or that they stand with the coalition that has left them for the last 3 years hungry for anything to stop Assad… much better to say America not doin enough and that coalition needs to target Assad Hezbollah and co…

    All of this is nonsense though… the real questions are who will take the place of ISIS in Tabaqa, and what will ISIS attack next as it moves in desperation… will they take more Assad positions or will they take more of Kobane…

    Will Jabhat al Nusra break up and join the FSA and thus take orders from US and Arab led coalition in the next phase?

    ISIS cannot hold fixed positions and will one break into smaller groups not in fixed positions, how will the Assad army and the FSA handle guerrilla war from these ISIS pockets.

    All those claiming to know what’s happening or claiming Assad is winning or benefitting are hiding their true thoughts as this is taking a big twist now.

    How many Arab jets are flying over Ass-ad now and Assad wouldn’t dare bring one down, tomorrow it may be Turkish jets and a No Fly Zone…

    • i look at the media, and the only ones protesting the strikes are the people that advocated for strikes 1 year ago, and naturally the “moderate” we are all nusra, terrorists you guys support inside syria.

      cant wait for until the hunt starts in europe. A few more random behaded people by valiant freedom fighters should do it

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