Syria Daily: Russia — We Didn’t Bomb US-Backed, Kurds-Led Force

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Troops of the Syrian Democratic Forces in northeast Syria (File)

Russia’s Defence Ministry has denied that Moscow’s jets bombed the US-supported, Kurds-led Syrian Democratic Forces in Deir ez-Zor Province in eastern Syria on Saturday.

Both the SDF and the Pentagon claimed that a Russian warplane struck the SDF and supporting US forces in the industrial zone to the east of Deir ez-Zor city, about 15 km (10 miles) from pro-Assad forces on the western side of the city. They said six SDF fighters were injured, with no casualties among the Americans.

An American official said the US-led coalition denied a Russian military request to strike an area where there were SDF fighters and coalition advisors, but the Russians decided to attack anyway.

The incident highlighted the possibility of clashes between the SDF and the pro-Assad offensive, which entered Deir ez-Zor Province at the start of September and broke the Islamic State’s siege of both the city and the nearby military airport.

See Syria Daily, September 17: Russian Jets Bomb US-Backed, Kurdish-Led SDF in East

The US has said that the SDF, which launched its own advance into the province on September 9, will not enter Deir ez-Zor city. However, Bashar al-Assad’s senior advisor Bouthaina Shaaban said on Friday that the regime’s military will eventually “fight and work against” the SDF, led by the Kurdish militia YPG, as well as ISIS “so our land is freed completely from any aggressor”.

Yesterday the Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov, insisted that Russia’s jets had only hit targets in areas controlled by the Islamic State:

To avoid unnecessary escalation, the commanders of Russian forces in Syria used an existing communications channel to inform our American partners in good time about the borders of our military operation in Deir ez-Zor.

In the last few days, Russian surveillance and reconnaissance did not detect a single clash between Islamic State and armed representatives of any “third force” [the SDF] on the eastern bank of the Euphrates.

The SDF has said that pro-Assad forces have fired across the Euphrates and warned them to desist.

The Assad regime’s military claimed on Sunday that it took another suburb of Deir ez-Zor city, the al-Jafra district on the western bank of the Euphrates, cutting off ISIS fighters.

This morning Russia’s State outlet RT tries to turn attention to US airstrikes near Mayadin, 40 km (25 miles) southeast of Deir ez-Zor city:

The US-led coalition has admitted to carrying out an airstrike in Deir ez-Zor province, which reportedly killed at least 12 Syrian civilians. While the coalition did not acknowledge the casualties among locals, it promised to launch an investigation into the incident.

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    • Ahem, what is your animosity with Ojalan and YPG? Are they not Marxist enough for you? Is this due to the centuries old feud between Marx and Bakunin? Are they not anti-capitalist? Not pure enough?

      I am still waiting for you to explain your comment that “Yanki thieves are plundering Syria”. How are they doing that?

      • By arming financing and supplying Islamist “freedom” fighters, and by doing so, forcing the Syrian government to spend money on defense, instead of much needed other civil services (health, education etc). That’s like plundering of the Syrian people’s coffer

        • Ha – you won’t bother explaining your comment that the US is plundering Syria? Could it be that you cannot back up this claim? Of course you did say “Yanki thieves are plundering Syria”, about a week or ten days ago. If I find the quotation, would you then back it up?

              • Barbar, please stop arguing in bad faith. When you say something, then back it up, or retract it. I can’t keep tab of all your comments. You clearly said about 10 days ago the “Yanki Imperialist theives are plundering Syria.” and on may comments you have been dismissive of the Kurds, and consider them to be part of the imperialist camp.

              • 1. I have several times in the past referred you to evidence that one of Cheney’s major motivations for moving his puppet Bush the Brainless into Iraq was to plunder ‘his’ priceless oil from under Saddam’s soil and I still await your evidence or even just a passable argument refuting that contention.

                2. I think ‘the Kurds’ are ideologically split about 4 or 5 different ways, spreading their political bets by having at least one toe in every available camp. That is not dismissive and neither is weighing their chances of success in the nationalist project when overly relying on any particular alleged “ally”.

              • There has been no evidence that the US is plundering Iraqi oil. You make this fake narrative claim, then you better back it up. There is no other way around that. When you make a claim, you either back it up, or it shall be dismissed.

                It is no one’s responsibility to “refute” your fake narrative.

              • There has been no evidence that the US is plundering Iraqi oil” — Listen carefully now and tell me why Wesley Clark would lie to you:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

                It is inarguable that Cheney was heavily motivated to gain control over “the glittering prize” of Iraq’s major natural resource, wealth beyond the dreams of avarice, and that he was literally plotting out this rape & pillage over maps of the Iraqi oilfields with the heads of major conglomerates within days of getting into the Offal Orifice.

                However, not every warcrime pays off for the perpetrators and the Yanki Brain-Bugs behind the Iraq Aggression from 2003 — 2011 have practically uniformly confessed that it did not work out as intended. Hence, they did not get away with the heist, which was made to backfire by the valiant patriotic efforts of the noble Iraqi Resistance.

    • Well, SAA just crossed the Euphrates and are head on with SDF. I doubt YPG would choose to go after SAA.

      Surprise! HTS and Erdo’an are now jointly attacking the Kurds in Efrin. Turkey is providing air support to HTS against Kurds. And all this time Erdo’an was denying that he was in cahoots with Nusra, and recently pretended that he had taken side with AaS against HTS. What a slimy snake. Time to shoot down some Turkish F14s using American supplied Stingers. Of course the US can always send a coded message to the F14 for it to self-destruct. So all they have to do is to pretend it was shot down by a missile.

      • Time to shoot down some Turkish F14s using American supplied Stingers.

        That’ll go down well. No better way to end NATO once and for all.

        Of course the US can always send a coded message to the F14 for it to self-destruct.

        The F14 was built in the 70s and 80s and the Turks already have F16s and F18s.

        • F-18’s loaded with self-destruct charges that Turkish maintenance personnel somehow do not notice over the course of decades stripping and rebuilding these machines?

          • Self destruct? Of course not. These flying machines depend on precision computer calculation and control, and all flying is by wire – i.e. the pilot instructs the computer and the computer carries it out. All you need to do is to jam the computer or tell it to cut off the engines. Barbar, you are still thinking of 1950s technology. Will you diehards ever modernize?

            • OK, so this is another product of your fantasy, like the geo-boxed Stinger missile you claim exists but which somehow remains unknown to the rest of humanity.

              • There has been references made to it in the press. Besides it is a very simple technology. Why is it so difficult for you to understand that when you make the silly claim that ISIS will take the Stingers to Paris and shoot down an airliner, that the US can easily stop that? If shooting down airliners is such a horrific thing, then why did the US not geo-box the missiles?

              • 1. “There has been references made to it in the press.” — Prey link me up then … I’ll be very surprised if they are not at best to some theoretical weapons system rather than an actually existing one.

                2. “Why is it so difficult for you to understand that when you make the silly claim that ISIS will take the Stingers to Paris and shoot down an airliner, that the US can easily stop that?” — I’ve never made any such claim and have always agreed it is perfectly doable to make such a geo-boxed MANPAD, though doubting its practicality in real wartime use, e.g., if GPS were disabled by jamming or knocking out a few satellites the thing becomes an oversized paperweight.

                3. “If shooting down airliners is such a horrific thing, then why did the US not geo-box the missiles?” — Did I say it is “such a horrific thing” and you’d need to ask them about that, as it’s hardly my task to divine the minds of the Yanki warmonglers, eh?

        • Nope,it doesn’t own F18 either. F16’s and F4’s. Most F4’s are old and is waiting for retirement. Appr. 50 F4’s were upgraded in the late 90’s when tr army had excellent relations with israel.

  1. #YPJ’s Sarya Evîndar responds to Russian/Syrian regime airstrikes on #SDF north of #DeirEzZor https://youtu.be/zF8dh_aE5Jw

    Sarya Evîndar, a commander of the Women’s Defense Units (YPJ) that participate in Operation #CizireStrom against #ISIS, responds to September 16 airstrikes by Russian/Syrian regime warplanes against Syrian Democratic Forces (#SDF) positions north of Deir ez-Zor, eastern #Syria.
    https://www.facebook.com/YPG/videos/1580739755280948/ 9/18/2017

    No time for love, children, ‘desires’: meet the female Kurdish freedom fighters . #YPJ #YJASTAR #twitterkurds theage.com.au/good-weekend/t… https://t.co/4FUeom8nPg https://t.co/MkfamVm9je
    https://twitter.com/Freedom4Kurds_/status/904074320913338368 9/2/2017

    Are the guerrilla forces castes of beings serenely distant from the flesh, like nuns and monks in the Christian Church, but with M-16s and rocket launchers?
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yved5v/kobani-v23n4 6/21/2016

  2. Resistance of #Kurdish women inspires big #Hollywood roles. Felicity on her #StarWars #RogueOne role: m.youtube.com/watch?v=hxu1I1… https://t.co/TOH7HwyVCR #TwitterKurds
    https://twitter.com/BurnALight/status/854044891000819712 4/17/2017

    Star Wars creator George Lucas is said to have hinted that the Order of Jedi Knights was actually modeled on the Jesuit Order.
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jescomph/5-reasons-why-ignatius-of-loyola-was-the-first-jed-21smv 12/18/2015

    On the feast of St. Ignatius of Loyola, Spanish soldier-turned-mystic who founded the Jesuits, the religious order of Pope Francis, the pontiff […] prayed for Jesuit Father Paolo Dall’Oglio who was kidnapped in Syria on July 29, 2013.
    https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2017/07/31/feast-day-jesuit-pope-praises-jesuit-founder/ 7/31/2017

  3. Well, SAA just crossed the Euphrates and are head on with SDF. I doubt YPG would choose to go after SAA.

    Surprise! HTS and Erdo’an are now jointly attacking the Kurds in Efrin. Turkey is providing air support to HTS against Kurds. And all this time Erdo’an was denying that he was in cahoots with Nusra, and recently pretended that he had taken side with AaS against HTS. What a slimy snake. Time to shoot down some Turkish F14s using American supplied Stingers. Of course the US can always send a coded message to the F14 for it to self-destruct. So all they have to do is to pretend it was shot down by a missile.

  4. For Kazemi:

    1. Prolonged IS play-act of war chronicled on video fools hardened CIA-cornfed JI-Joes into believing the Kawariji are fiercely fighting Assad on the Eastfront, whilst they were actually helping him reach Deir Ezzour faster than a speeding camel, or a camel on speed, you decide:
    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/909538292852510720

    Even Hezbollah and Soleimani collaborated in this evil scheme by publishing lists of dozens of KIA from the battle, who are in fact perfectly fine … is there no end to this Shia perfidy?

    2. And, in this captured faux-battlefield footage, IS crisis actors simulate desperation in a failed armoured assault at Al Hamaima in the far eastern Homs countryside — scenes of confusion and chaotic screaming in a bedlam of conflicting languages are psychological ’special effects’ designed to spur on their SAA allies to attack innocent Yanki invaders and their stooges, not evidence that the last IS troops are in the midst of being wiped out by roving swarms of Rooskie attack choppers:
    https://www.facebook.com/SyrianReporters/videos/1533326980046203/
    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/909538292852510720

    • It appears these technicals were precision bombed, while they were traveling. Russia has no precision bombs and does not have the capability to hit a moving vehicle from the air. So clearly these ISIS assets were hit by the Americans.

    • Good to see your ISIS friends getting blown to pieces. But what is unclear is in the video, are they pointing to that bright thing in the sky? It appears the bright object is flying, and either a US drone or a helicopter. But why would it be so bright in the daytime? This video was released by the Mukhaberat. It appears that it has been photoshopped?

      • 1. “Russia has no precision bombs and does not have the capability to hit a moving vehicle from the air” — here are some links on the topic:
        http://www.deagel.com/Defensive-Weapons/KAB-500S-E_a001838001.aspx
        https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-russian-air-force-hunts-scores-isis-tanks-trucks/
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(weapon)

        2. “are they pointing to that bright thing in the sky?” — I believe the excitable cameraman gesticulated to about every point on the celestial compass in his final minutes but also that moonstroke was probably the least of his worries at that moment. According to this translation of the pandemonium, he was [quite rightly] concerned about some approaching tanks spotted pivoting turrets in their specific direction:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COI2fA7LEdE

        And as Yankistan does not have tanks in the desert at Al Hamaima, what option does that leave, in your opinion?

        3. “It appears the bright object is flying, and either a US drone or a helicopter. But why would it be so bright in the daytime?” — I don’t know how you make out a machine in the air there, never mind any identifying markings, but yes, the UFO is certainly flying, in a high orbit around the Earth, although locally on this planet we usually just refer to it as ‘the moon’ for short. And it only appears bright because the setting sun was shining upon it … don’t worry, it’s not actually on fire.

        • Look at the first part of the video again. The fighters are pointing to this bright object in the sky, clearly visible in the videos. I am pretty sure it is a flying object and the source of their apprehension. Or could it be a reflection from the sun in the camera lens?

          • You’re right, it is a flying object, known since time immemorial as “the moon”.

            It cannot be a laser designator, as that would produce a dazzle effect in any receiving camera or eyeball:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovhtxl7W_j8

            Which leaves us back with the source of their apprehension being, as the cameraman repeatedly stated [unless you can credibly falsify the provided translation?], a nearby battle tank.

            Conclusion — the sad fate of this IS armoured column had nothing to do with Yankistan.

            • The moon does not appear as a point source of dazzling bright . And a designator need not be a point light – it can be broader to let’s say cover the whole vehicle rather than a point. Lasers are tunable, and they can produce a cone of light which would make it a lot easier to target a moving object, and get better reflection off it.

              I don’t disagree that there is an enemy tank in the vicinity. I am questioning what is the role of the bright light in this video as it seems to be in the field of view of the cameraman. Just reply with “I don’t know” instead of making stuff up (UFO, cannot be a designator, cannot be a helicopter), contrary to the evidence.

              • 1. Strawman alert … I never said the moon appears as a “point source of dazzling bright[ness]”, but then neither does the large white circular UFO at timecode 00:03 in the top right quadrant of the clip last linked to, which also remains ‘hovering’ stationary there the whole time.

                2. In fact no “point source of dazzling bright[ness]” that I can discern appears anywhere in that video, otherwise supply the precise timecode where you claim this occurs. The nearest thing visible is muzzle-flash from probably a technical-mounted 23mm on the horizon [white, expanding into yellow], as at 01:35, which is neither dazzling nor where one would expect to find the mythical Yanki chopper or UAV you seek.

                3. Laser tuning refers to adaptation of its wavelength [colour], not its focus, which as with any other type of light is achieved using optical lenses:
                https://www.rp-photonics.com/wavelength_tuning.html

                4. Naturally even laser light focused in a straight and narrow beam diverges somewhat the further it travels, and again I never said a designator needs to appear as a “point [of] light” on the target, so necessarily it will hit a perpendicular surface as a disc of some diameter at the end of a cone of light. Still, I expect this laser disc on target would be up to ~20 cm across, rather than as many meters, since there is little military satisfaction to be gained from guiding a Hellfire missile, like an ATGM relying on a shaped charge, or whatever other armour-penetrator, into the sand near a MBT.

                5. Prey adduce evidence that a target-designation laser will not produce dazzle in any receiving camera or eyeball, even if it arrives in a cone of 1 meter in diameter?

                6. ”the role of the bright light in this video” is to be our nearest celestial body, producing tides, eclipses and periodic nocturnal illumination upon the planet.

                7. It’s a bit rich you instructing me to not make stuff up, seeing as I have used nothing but the available evidence, combined with sound reasoning you have failed to refute, to demolish your latest faith-based conspiracy theory.

              • You simply cannot admit that the sky is blue, even when you are taken out on a bright sunny day.

                There is a point source of light in the video. It is related to the cameraman filming. Either you will agree that there is such a thing, or you are denying an obvious fact, and when someone points out a fact, you react in a defensive manner as if the person is trying to prove another theory. Your attempt to erase that from the picture just shows you extremists are unable to face facts, even if it SUPPORTS your theory. I never said there are no tanks, or that the hit could not be from a tank. My theory is that the hit was a precision laser directed ATM missile fired from the enemy, as opposed to a random tank shell, that was targeted by that bright source of point light, maybe from a helicopter. It could even be a laser directed tank shell. So stop finding ghosts in everything that I say. Fact finding is more important than being right or wrong. But of course you extremist ideologues believe that facts are irrelevant, even if they support your theory, as may be in this case. What matters for you is just to appear right, at any cost, even at the cost of being wrong.

              • What “faith based conspiracy theory”? That Islam is hogwash? If you intend to reply, please reply in the newest Syria Daily report. Thanks.

              • 1. “You simply cannot admit that the sky is blue, even when you are taken out on a bright sunny day.” — That is not at issue and, yes, I easily can.

                2. “There is a point source of light in the video” — Then give the timecode and location in frame please? I am unsure if you are saying this is the same UFO I have identified as “the moon”.

                3. “It is related to the cameraman filming” — Prey explain how you make this out, as “the moon” definitely stays put in the sky in relation to him while he’s frantically hopping about?

                4. “Either you will agree that there is such a thing” — Er, as what now? Try to be specific and I will try to agree, deal?

                5. “when someone points out a fact, you react in a defensive manner” — Which fact have you pointed out in this discussion? And no, I am not in the least defensive, just methodically dealing with your baseless claims.

                6. “Your attempt to erase that from the picture” — Er, sorry, what have I attempted to erase from the picture and how? You sound tired and emotional at this stage.

                7. “I never said there are no tanks, or that the hit could not be from a tank.” — Fascinating, but then I neither claimed nor even slightly insinuated that you did, so this defensive statement is entirely superfluous. Hey ho, on to the next one …

                8. “My theory is that the hit was a precision laser directed ATM missile fired from the enemy ….” — You also specified that said enemy was Yankistan — are you now resiling from that claim?

                9. “ … that was targeted by that bright source of point light, maybe from a helicopter.” — Er, what “bright source of point light”? How can you so consistently fail to specify what you are even talking about?

                10. “So stop finding ghosts in everything that I say” — If you would only speak with a modicum of precision I’m sure there will be no problem on my side in following along. Go ahead and try me.

                11. “But of course you … believe that facts are irrelevant” — LOL, no, and whence did you pluck this gem?

                12. “What matters for you is just to appear right, at any cost, even at the cost of being wrong.” — Nonsense and where in this thread do you imagine to have shown that I am wrong?

                13. “what ‘faith based conspiracy theory’” — The one you cockily started off with, that this IS armoured column was destroyed by Yankistani forces and not SAA/Rooskies.

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