White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows holds his head in his hands after a briefing by Donald Trump’s doctor outside Walter Reed Medical Hospital, Bethesda, Maryland, October 3, 2020 (Erin Scott/Reuters)

As former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows — in line with an order from Donald Trump — files a lawsuit to avoid testimony to the House select committee on the Capitol Attack, I spoke with Monocle 24’s Markus Hippi on Thursday.

Listen from 16:39:

We actually know a lot of what happened on January 6. You just have to take the time and effort to go through the material brought out by some very good journalists and witnesses on the day.

We know the organizers of the rally that preceded the Capitol Attack were in touch with the Trump camp, including Mark Meadows.

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