A different approach to the impending Trump Presidency — psychologist Dan Wilcox and I joined Llewela Bailey of BBC Radio WM on Sunday morning for 25 minutes of chat and music. We talked politics and our personal reactions, explaining our concerns in the context of where we have been — Wilcox is from New York while I grew up in Alabama — and where we are now.

So which songs did each of us choose as our anthem? Will either of us watch the Inaugural Speech? And what do we think needs to be done to confront the Trump era?

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