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  1. It’s difficult to imagine a way that Obama could refrain from using force and keep his credibility. He kind of boxed himself in with prior comments he made. The Assad regime is practically daring Obama to strike.

    • Four reasons:Obama has little choice now:

      1. Islamists will continue to make further gains unless we act. Obama’s inaction opened the door for them.

      2. After the chemical attack, ISIS and other radicals say they would no longer refrain from attempts to seize Assad’s chemical weapons facilities. Can you blame them? And if we don’t act, they will.

      3. If we don’t act it is certain the regime will launch chemical attacks that will make the recent one look trivial by comparison. Why would they hesitate?

      4. Obama was publicly humiliated by the last attack and everyone knows it–friends, foes and neutrals. It was a pure pie in the face act courtesy of Assad. That makes it personal as well.

      • even if it will be limited strike, his air force will be surelly neutralized to prevent any attack towards Israel that will surely help the rebels massivly

      • Nope. I was opposed to knee jerk reactions before the situation offered more clarity. I was talking about how dumb it was for people to expect the US to act immediately after the accusations started.

        • Hi guys,

          I’m stepping in to end this thread now. We really value all your contributions but this is not the place to argue or debate opinions about whether the West/ U.S. should strike Syria. It’s a place to bring information.

          J.

  2. If Russia thinks we’re going to wait for UN approval then they can keep dreaming. We aren’t giving China and Russia something that would amount to veto power over US policy. When they are uncooperative at the UN it makes unilateral action more likely. I thought Russia would’ve figured that out. If they want to use the UN for obstructionist purposes then we will find another way without them and then they will have next to no influence over what happens. Russia isn’t playing ball at the UN so we don’t need to worry about them because there is nothing there to lose.

    • UN approval = Russian approval (and Chinese approval). That’s an impossibility. NATO now looks highly possible since Germany apparently dropped objections yesterday. Throw in Turkey and most Sunni regimes in the Gulf.

  3. wonder what all low ranking regime terrorists think since reports are coming that senior regime officials fled to Lebanon

  4. Markito writes: MANY USA TANKS AND OTHER VEHICLES ARE MOVING TOWARD SYRIA’S BORDERS

    That’s the lead for my new Syria Roundup today. Though based one source he has often been reliable in the past.

    http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/19780

    There have also been reports (accurate I think) of families of top regime officials being evacuated in large numbers from Latakia via a Russian ship. This is a sure sign of a sinking ship so the regime is likely to hush it up.

    A report that the Russians have begun evacuating their Tartous base seems less probable to me not because it won’t happen but because it strikes me as a bit premature.

    Finally this is the second consecutive day in which I’ve watch videos of rebels blowing up three tanks though in two different locations. The first instance was on a bridge and the video link appears in the last roundup. In this one, tanks speed along a stretch of road at good speed, as if aware of the danger, yet get bagged one by one. A link to that video appears in today’s roundup. I doubt those six tanks were alone. It appears no crew members survived.

    • Is that somehow different from Russia and Iran sticking their head in the sand as their ally gasses his own people? So you’re saying the US should ignore atrocities because we supposedly helped out Saddam in the 80’s? I’ve seen this argument all over the place and it could hardly be more irrelevant to events in Syria 25 years later. If knowing about the use of chemical weapons and not saying anything about it equals complicity then Iran and Russia are also complicit. That is especially hypocritical for Iran who has spent about 30 years crying about alleged western support for Saddam’s chemical weapons program. It’s ironic that many of the same people who decry support for Saddam are now trying to provide Assad with cover.

      http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114469/iraq-lessons-syria-chemical-weapons

    • Complete nonsense – Iran is poised to overrun Iraq and export Shia terrorism. US informs Iraq where this breach will happen.

      So US is now responsible for Iraq gassing invading Iranian soldiers?

      This is so bizarre on so many levels. It implies that Iraq should be overrun by terrorists because Iraq may use chemical weapons. So Absurd.

      Foreign Policy is a left-leaning discredited internet rag masquerading as a serious journal. You might as well quote from counterpunch.

  5. UN inspectors delayed their visit to East Ghouta because they don’t want to have to report all the information they will find there. It is an outrage that East Ghouta cheese exports were halted when UN inspectors from afar claimed that it was contaminated with toxic chemicals although the cheese is not actually made in East Ghouta. This is one of many outrageous and non-credible statements made by the facilitators of the Great Satan, MI6, and the Culinary Institute of America. Also it is claimed that samples held in Western labs have an inflammatory index of -148 for a serving size of 198g (7 oz). The demonizing of Syrian exports is part of a multi-pronged conspiracy to bring down the heroic Bashar al-Assad. Also, unconfirmed reports from a usually reliable source state that, during a circus festival, a terrorist attempted to throw a cheese cake at the President’s stunt double Bashir al-Assad, just as the bellicose Secretary of War, John Kerry was making inflammatory remarks.

    • 2000 + or – 500. Approx 800 destroyed, and 1500 in storage.
      Questions I have are how many tank transporters do they have left and most important how many qualified crews are left…..also their maintenance is terrible and spare parts may be hard to get. Since the first of the year the Syrian Army has lost an average of 50 tanks per month. Tank and aircraft losses are hard to find but this is my best info from about 10 web sites.

  6. Russian President, Saudi Spy Chief Discussed Syria, Egypt
    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2013/08/saudi-russia-putin-bandar-meeting-syria-egypt.html#ixzz2d5UVLSNv

    “Bandar told Putin, “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics in the city of Sochi on the Black Sea next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us, and they will not move in the Syrian territory’s direction without coordinating with us. These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role or influence in Syria’s political future.”

    Regarding the Syrian issue, the Russian president responded to Bandar, saying, “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters. During the Geneva I Conference, we agreed with the Americans on a package of understandings, and they agreed that the Syrian regime will be part of any settlement. Later on, they decided to renege on Geneva I.

    The head of the Saudi intelligence services said that the dispute over the approach to the Syrian issue leads to the conclusion that “there is no escape from the military option, because it is the only currently available choice given that the political settlement ended in stalemate. We believe that the Geneva II Conference will be very difficult in light of this raging situation.”

    At the end of the meeting, the Russian and Saudi sides agreed to continue talks, provided that the current meeting remained under wraps. This was before one of the two sides leaked it via the Russian press.”

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