Podcast: Trump Fires Tillerson

Donald Trump watches Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (Jabin Botsford/Washington Post/Getty)

UPDATE 2015 GMT: My conversation on Tuesday night with Turkey’s TRT World about Trump and Tillerson:

UPDATE 1930 GMT: I spoke with BBC Hereford and Worcester about both Donald Trump’s firing of Rex Tillerson and Russia’s suspected nerve agent attack on former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, with the UK promising firm action if Moscow does not give a satisfactory explanation by midnight.

Q: Do you find all this quite fascinating and interesting?

A: I find it horrifying. It’s chaos.

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Soon after the sudden announcement by Donald Trump — via Twitter — that he had fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, I spoke with BBC Radio Foyle about the reasons and the implications for an already-chaotic US foreign policy:

The reality is that Donald Trump’s circle is getting smaller and smaller. He is relying increasingly on family and friends. I think he believes that all this diplomacy, all these concerns can be handled — whether it’s North Korea, whether it’s Russia, whether it’s the Middle East — by himself through face-to-face meetings, or through family like Jared Kushner.

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Scott Lucas is Professor of International Politics at the University of Birmingham and editor-in-chief of EA WorldView. He is a specialist in US and British foreign policy and international relations, especially the Middle East and Iran. Formerly he worked as a journalist in the US, writing for newspapers including the Guardian and The Independent and was an essayist for The New Statesman before he founded EA WorldView in November 2008.


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