Syria Daily: Reports — Russia Jets Kill 60+ Civilians in Deir ez-Zor Province

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Civilians fleeing Deir ez-Zor for Raqqa Province (Bulent Kilic/AFP/Getty)

Russia accused by locals of “double-tap” attack on civilians in boats


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Former residents say Russian jets have killed at least 60 civilians trying to flee fighting in Deir ez-Zor Province in eastern Syria.

The civilians were reportedly slain when their small boats were targeted as they tried to cross the Euphrates River south of Deir ez-Zor city.

“Russian jets staged a second wave of strikes on the boats that were fleeing across the river, causing more casualties among those who rushed to rescue earlier survivors,” said Abdullah al-Akaidat, a tribal figure in northern Syria, who is in contact with relatives in the area.

The former residents said 15 civilians were killed in airstrikes on the town of al Quriya, further north along the Euphrates.

Pro-Assad forces reached Deir ez-Zor city last month, breaking a three-year Islamic State siege, in a summer offensive that moved rapidly into and across the province. However, in the past week an ISIS counter-attack has regained territory to the south and west of the city, reaching and capturing the town of Qaraytayn in eastern Homs Province.

See Syria Daily, Oct 2: ISIS Counter-Attack Advances, Takes Town from Regime

Moscow has also been unsettled by the deaths of its military personnel in Deir ez-Zor, including a general, and the release of an ISIS video purporting to show two captured Russian troops. The Kremlin insisted on Wednesday that the two men are not part of the Russian military, but said it is checking their identities.

To cover the extent of its ground involvement in Syria, Russia relies heavily on contract personnel deployed by Russian companies.


OPCW: Regime Military Used Sarin Days Before Deadly Khan Sheikhoun Attack

The Assad regime deployed sarin on a town in northern Hama Province in late March, days before its deadly attack with the nerve agent on another opposition-held town, Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib Province.

Sources said an inquiry by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons has confirmed the March 30 use of sarin on Latamneh in northern Hama Province, adjacent to Idlib Province.

About 70 people suffered nausea, foaming at the mouth, and muscle spasms in Latamneh. Five days later, at least 92 people died and hundreds were wounded when a regime Su-22 jet dropped a sarin canister on Khan Sheikhoun.

The head of the OPCW, Ahmet Uzumcu, confirmed the report: “Analysis of samples collected… relates to an incident that took place again in the northern part of Syria on the 30th of March this year. The results prove the existence of sarin.”

Saying about 50 people were injured, Uzumcu said the OPCW team had retrieved soil samples, clothing, and metal parts “which were sent to our laboratories and we received the results a few days ago”.

In June the OPCW’s Fact Finding Mission confirmed the use of the nerve agent in the Khan Sheikhoun attack. Its new report is due to be completed within weeks.

The FFM cannot assign blame for an attack. However, the UN-OPCW Joint Investigative Mechanism can do so.

The JIM has already found regimes forces were responsible for three chlorine gas attacks in 2014 and 2015. It is scheduled to report to the UN Security Council this month on responsibility for Khan Sheikhoun.

Russia has threatened to block the renewal of the JIM’s mandate in mid-November.

“The Russians don’t like what the JIM has come up with so far, so they are muttering about not allowing a rollover,” sa diplomat of a Security Council member told Reuters.

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      • Like most Israelis he just wants to kill all “islamists” as he vaguely seems to refer to anybody who hates Israel and sees it for what it is. As if that would solve Israel’s problem of being an illegitimate state whose identity is based on murdering arabs. It’s worked so great for them for the last 50 years LOL.

        • Nothing illegitimate about Israel. It were the Arabs who in 1948 did not accept settlers living in their midst and attacked them in order to take away their lands and ‘cleanse’ the place. Jews have a millennia old unceded attachment to the lands of Palestine. It were the Arabs who through Islamic imperialism settled and ruled those lands.

          • It were the Arabs who in 1948 did not accept settlers living in their midst and attacked them in order to take away their lands and ‘cleanse’ the place.

            Wrong as usual. Haganah’s own records show that they had expelled over 300,000 Palestinians during the 5 months leading up to the May 1948 war.

            Jews have a millennia old unceded attachment to the lands of Palestine.

            So what? The allied Powers who voted for the Mandate made clear this did not cotinuture anything legal claim to the land.

            Hope that helps

            • The Arab armies were in preparation for an invasion far longer than 5 months before they invaded.

              Jews right to the land goes back a couple of thousand years, to the time of Judea and Samara. It were the Arabs who in 635 AD invaded and occupied Palestine and ruled the place with their brutal armies and forced converted people, or relegated to sub-citizenship and the Jizya. Little to do with the Mandate. Hope this helps.

              • The Arab armies were in preparation for an invasion far longer than 5 months before they invaded.

                Sorry but you have nothing to gain by making stuff up. The CIA and State Department predicted the Jews would be the aggressors in the conflict, and that the Arabs armies would have to act in defense of the Palestinians.
                https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1948v05p2/d210
                Jews right to the land goes back a couple of thousand years, to the time of Judea and Samara.

                There is no such right, and at the time of the Mandate only owned 6% of land title. As I said earlier, the Allied Powers unanimously concurred that the Zionists had no legal claim to any land.

                It were the Arabs who in 635 AD invaded and occupied Palestine…

                If you are going to play that silly game, then the Israelites invaded Canaan 2 thousand yrs earlier and conquered it with force. The concept of citizenship was a very recent Westen concept. Hope this helps.

  1. SAA and Rooskies are now shelling people’s homes in Mayadin with their howitzers. Only 15 km way from the battle lines, and hey, why send expensive and clunky jets, that may stray into the NFZ. Shelling people’s home is very effective in eliminating civilians, and cleansing the area of the opposition. Assad has been doing that from day 1 of the rebellion.

    • Hi, this is Andre. Of course SAA has the sovereign right to target and shell people’s homes in Mayadin, no matter how remote they are from the fighting. Isn’t that exactly what the Americans did 75 years ago in Hiroshima? And before that, settlers were killing the native Americans, about 200 years ago. Kettle and pot.

    • Before trying to repair the SAA, why won’t you fix your own exceptionally broken house where crazy citizens who are a part of an insane society, kill each other, not with howitzers, but using simple weapons that you can purchase in every corner and street. What a f**ked up society you are Amrica.
      You have no right to preach to others when you are the most crazy, most brutal, most destructive, most cruel. most merciless (especially to your own citizens).

      • The guy was a terrorist. Most likely an Antifa terrorist. The Left in the US has said it is OK to use violence against people who do not agree with leftist ideology. Hence we get people like this. Very tough to stop terrorism. How many Israeli cafe’s have been blown up?

        • This lunatic is not a terrorist. He follows an American narrative and culture of mass murder. This is a 100% American phenomenon, and it reflects your f**kupness. You are a cruel alienated society, face it and admit it. A society of wolf eats wolf. If you are weak (black, immigrant, poor, sick) your life is worthless. No one cares, especially the State, that will make your life even more miserable and unbearable. What an ugly place Amrica is.

          • You clearly have no idea. Your darkness, and desired malaise, is your own creation to fit the narrative in your head. You are the one that celebrates the negative and the morbid. It gives you cause and justifies your illogical conclusions. You are a child, clearly.

            “American culture is clearly about mass murder.” Really, thats what you believe? thats incredibly awesome. How many years left before the messiah returns and wipes everyone out? Now, thats a culture of mass murder!

          • The guy was a multi-millionaire. He was not oppressed or anything. Had 3 homes. What about the Swedish terrorist who killed 80 people, 30 of whom were children? Is that also Americanism?

            The guy was a leftwing Antifa, and ISIS claims he converted to Islam 6 months ago. I will not be surprised because Antifas have a very deep respect for Islamic terrorism and Islamic fascism.

            • The guy was a leftwing Antifa, and ISIS claims he converted to Islam 6 months ago. I will not be surprised because Antifas have a very deep respect for Islamic terrorism and Islamic fascism.

              He had no affiliation with either one. ISIS like to claim credit for these events even when it has nothing to do with them. More likely he was a right wing white supremacist alt right nut

              • A white supremacist who targets a country music concert that is frequented only by conservative whites? A white supremacist who wants to eliminate whites? Lately your logic is failing more than usual. Do you see a logical problem with your statement?

              • A white supremacist who targets a country music concert that is frequented only by conservative whites?

                The Alt Right sees enemies everywhere even among their own race.

              • The alt-right that goes to these concerts and mingles with other alt-rights is now going to shoot people at these concerts, because they imagine enemies, and in the process kill a whole bunch of alt-rights? Andre, the intelligence level in your compulsive responses has deteriorated steadily. DO something about it.

              • Country music is not longer the domain of the conservative right. In fact,country has become decidedly mainstream so to suggest only alt right types attend these concerts is an anachronism

          • State does not care for the blacks? 50% of government employees are black. They get paid 30% above market rates and they can retire at 55, and get a huge salary doing nothing. As a government employee, you work only 33 hours a week, and you are unionnized. You have no idea about the size of the American welfare state. It is the largest item in the government budget.

            • 50% of government employees are black.

              The percentage is 20%.

              They get paid 30% above market rates and they can retire at 55, and get a huge salary doing nothing.

              In what universe is $84k a huge salary? And who could possibly retire at 55 on that wage?

              The sole called “American welfare state” is by no means the largest item in the government budget.

              • $84K is way above market rates, and a very generous income to live off. You apparently have no idea how cheap things are in the US. That is equivalent to $110,000 in Australian dollars, and given the cost of living differences, in purchasing power is equivalent to $220,000 Australian dollars. Don’t tell me you can’t live with this money in Australia. And when they retire at 55, they can find another job and double their income.

              • $84K is way above market rates, and a very generous income to live off.

                In what universe? $84k is breath a living wage. $11K our that gets used up with medical insurance.

                $110,000 in Australian dollars, and given the cost of living differences, in purchasing power is equivalent to $220,000 Australian dollars.

                Stop pulling these absurd numbers out of the air Kazemi. None of yout claims have a shred of credibility like your claim half government employees were black.

                And when they retire at 55, they can find another job and double their income.

                That’s truly hillarious. Someone of the age of 55 would be lucky to get a job that pays minimum wage. How on earth can you therefore double your income?

                Half of Americans live in poverty.

              • From today’s market, A$ = 0.777 US$. Therefore US$84,000 = 84,000/0.777 = A$ 108,000. Since USA is half as expensive as Australia, and yes I have been to Australia recently to know, then US$ 84,000 is equivalent to 2 x 108,000 = A$ 216,000. Lol, you must be making A$ 500,000 a year that you think it is impossible to live on A$ 216,000?

                You mean the government guy getting paid US$84,000 a year has no skills and no education, so when he retires, he can’t find a job? And you blame the US for it? He had 50 years to get himself a set of skills, but did not? And Americans are responsible for that?

              • A$108,000 is a tiny income in this day and age unless you live in a 3rd world country.

                Since USA is half as expensive as Australia, and yes I have been to Australia recently to know, then US$ 84,000 is equivalent to 2 x 108,000 = A$ 216,000.

                The US is not half as expensive as Australia. I visited the US last year and blew through $25K in three weeks. You cannot gauge what the cost of living based on visiting as a tourist.

                Lol, you must be making A$ 500,000 a year that you think it is impossible to live on A$ 216,000?

                Wow serious Houdini math you have to make $84k = $216k. No one here spends US$11,000 on average for a family for health insurance unless they want to. No one here has a US$150K student debt when they graduate from college or university. No one goes bankrupt from medical bills.

                No one wants to hire 55 yr olds unless they are a former or senator or comngressman who is getting graft for his time in office.

              • From today’s market, A$ = 0.777 US$. Therefore US$84,000 = 84,000/0.777 = A$ 108,000. Since USA is half as expensive as Australia, and yes I have been to Australia recently to know, then US$ 84,000 is equivalent to 2 x 108,000 = A$ 216,000.

                Once again it seems you are simply making up number Kazemi.

                According to actual data, the cost fo living in Australia is 11.5 % higher than the US, and that is also factoring is the exchange rate.
                https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=United+States

                City by City, New York is a 11% more expensive than Sydney.
                https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States&city1=Sydney&city2=New+York%2C+NY

          • There are huge opportunities for minorities in America. That is why all 3rd world wants to immigrate to America and not Italy or Egypt. If you work and if you learn, you can have a very good life in America, no matter the color of your skin. But when blacks are told that they should not work because it makes someone else rich, they will not take advantage of the opportunities.

            All universities can legally discriminate against Chinese and Whites, in favor of blacks and Muslims. This is legal discrimination. Obviously you know little about American culture.

            • If you work and if you learn, you can have a very good life in America, no matter the color of your skin.

              What a load of hogwash. Anyone with a brain knows that the overwhelming majority of those who live a good life in America are usually born into one. Race is huge barrier to success as with most countries.

              • “What a load of hogwash. Anyone with a brain knows that the overwhelming majority of those who live a good life in America are usually born into one. Race is huge barrier to success as with most countries.”

                Thats completely not true. There is more opportunity here than anywhere else for all. Oddly enough, you never hear of people trying to get into Russia.

              • Complete hogwash. Obviously you have never set foot to America and know very little.

                America is the land of opportunity. The mobility from the poor classes to the rich classes is phenomenal. Few of the rich com from a rich upbringing. Due to high taxes, those born in rich have by now lost most of their money and have become middle class.

                There is legal discrimination against whites and Chinese in the USA. And the blacks that wish to work within the system and refrain from crime and violence have been very successful. How is it that immigrant Hispanics have been so successful? Because they work hard, and the education of their children matters for them.

                Show me one other country where 50% of its population are minorities, that has advanced as much as America. And we have seen how you Australians treat your natives.

              • America is the land of opportunity.

                That’s what it says on the brochure but that ceased to be the case decades ago. Upward mobility is anemic and second to Europe and China.
                https://phys.org/news/2017-04-upward-mobility-fallen-sharply.html

                In fact, mobility is in the opposite direction with the middle and working classes begin completely decimated.
                https://www.salon.com/2016/07/20/the_myth_of_upward_mobility_american_workers_who_start_out_poor_are_likely_to_remain_so_partner/

                The richest 1% are becoming increasingly wealthy while the rest are being impoverished.

                And we have seen how you Australians treat your natives.

                Pretty much the same way you treat yours.

              • “Middle class being decimated” turned out to be a myth when the statistics were analyzed. The number of poor have not changed. Some middle class have become upper middle class so naturally middle class has shrunk.

              • Seriously Kazemi,

                I think you found the dumbest PHD holder on the internet. Not only does this clowns not cite any data to back up his claims, but he does not define what he means by a millionaire and whether he is comparing the number of millionaires is absolute dollar terms from 3 decades ago to today. If that is true, then he is a joke because a million dollars in today’s terms would have been $340K in 1980.

                By that logic alone, the number of self made millionaires would have dropped by the 60%.

              • Also 62 percent of billionaires are self made.

                Except that yout report does not tell us when they were self made. As soon as they pass away, the percentage of inheritances will skyrocket and the numbers will be meaningless

      • Lol, have you looked at how you treat palestinians and other arabs in Israel? US is the most brutal? Thats funny too. See, the difference is we acknowledge and publish our problems for all to see. Is it a problem to be able to buy guns? Guns are neither good nor bad. Newsflash for you…guns are inanimate objects. You can kill by driving a truck through a crowd of people. Should we ban trucks? Everyone should have the right to defend themselves. Your argument of blaming the gun for the person is incredibly naive and just shows your continued stupidity. Hows that forced military service coming for you?

        • Defend themselves? defend from others who had bought weapons maybe? What is the police for? why are you more or less the only country in the world that allow deadly weapons in the hands of all citizens? This is a cultural thing. Fear from the other is in your blood.

          • No, the cultural thing is the right to defend yourself, your loved ones, and your property. Somewhat akin to what the Syrian rebels are doing, and guess what, they are using guns to defend themselves. In case you hadn’t noticed.

            Nice way to dodge the point and respond with more whatboutism.

            Police? Do you imagine that police are everywhere at once? LOL

            We allow weapons so that we can shoot back at the government, police, or whomever. Sorry, there is an understood level of distrust of any type of organization ( Church, mafia, government, etc ) which attempts to control people. We’re not sheep just blindly following the gov, Look at Syria, see what happens when the gov is the only entity with weapons

            • LOL yes I see Orlando, Las Vegas and other daily incidents (320 a year!!!) of mass murder in Amrica, where the gov is NOT the only entity with weapons. And you are so proud of being exceptional … exceptional fat and unhealthy, exceptional obsessed with mistrust and self-defense, exceptional brutal and merciless, exceptional cruel, exceptional everything bad that the rest of mankind despises.

              • This is the hogwash that Islamists and Marxists say about America. You don’t even have the decency to say a nice thing about America when it supports your hero Left-fascist “Bookchin self-admin — “liberalism is the destruction of socirty” and “nature is divine” bullshit. Shame on you. Why have you not visited the Gaza Strip yet? Isn’t that your ideal society with the right “culture” – that hates Jews?

              • 320 a year? Thats a nice made up number.

                Yeah, America is exceptional. Your using the internet right? Or did Israel invent that? Oh, let me see, those F35s you just bought from America, Israel made those too, right? Oh, and lets see, what car are you driving? Bet that came from a western country too.

                Exceptionally cruel, hmmm, Wonder who took the most jews in while Hitler was wiping them out?

              • You’re really making me realize why the entire f***ing world hates the shitty little arrogant state of Israel. The west’s biggest mistake and one of the primary reasons the middle east is just a backwards ass region is that we condone that nation of f*** ups.

              • And thank you once again for proving that your stupid socialist ass doesn’t know shit about America beyond some dumb ass stereotypes you probably read on whatever moronic anti-American blogs that sheeple like you read.

              • And you are so proud of being exceptional … exceptional fat and unhealthy, exceptional obsessed with mistrust and self-defense, exceptional brutal and merciless, exceptional cruel, exceptional everything bad that the rest of mankind despises.

                Superbly put Amir. I would add exceptionally inhumane. In no other developed country is health care regarded as a privelage. I cannot fathom living in a country where you are left to die or become bankrupt because you cannot afford health insurance.

              • The west’s biggest mistake and one of the primary reasons the middle east is just a backwards ass region is that we condone that nation of f*** ups.

                That’s evidently what US politicians are referrring to when they insist the US and Israel share comming values.

            • Well said Matt. Amir appears to be so green in his understanding of civilization and society. He lives in echo chambers of the fascist Left and has been thoroughly indoctrinated.

              • America for me is a warning sign and a model of ‘how NOT to run a country –
                economy – social services – prisons – health services – politics etc’.
                The problem is that Netanyahu is in love with your sick culture, and he tries hard to make Israel a small Amrica.

              • And yet people across the world still have dreams of living in America. That’s a fact. Who the hell dreams of living in Israel? LOL. Says a lot right there.

              • And yet people across the world still have dreams of living in America

                Used to, thanks largely due to America’s cultural influence through movies, branding etc. Those days are long gone.

            • No, the cultural thing is the right to defend yourself, your loved ones, and your property. Somewhat akin to what the Syrian rebels are doing, and guess what, they are using guns to defend themselves. In case you hadn’t noticed

              No we haven’t noticed because the only ones who arm themselves as those who want violence. The rebels want to overthrow the government not defend themselves.

              Hope that alleviates any confusion.

            • We’re not sheep just blindly following the gov, Look at Syria, see what happens when the gov is the only entity with weapons

              Americans are among the most ignorant and isolated in the world and the obsession with guns leads to the largest number of deaths through gun crime in the world.

              • “Americans are among the most ignorant and isolated in the world and the obsession with guns leads to the largest number of deaths through gun crime in the world.”

                At least we are good at something, unlike Russia. Cause, still struggling to think what Russia does well, other than bomb hospitals, schools, and refugees.

              • At least we are good at something, unlike Russia. Cause, still struggling to think what Russia does well, other than bomb hospitals, schools, and refugees.

                I thought they excelled at being drunk on Vodka? But i have to agree, Russia is still second to the West when it comes to bombing hospitals, schools, and refugees.

          • Amir, the greatest source of oppression is the state. At some point, you may need to defend yourself from a communist or fascist state. That is what the right to bear guns means.

            You live in a democratic country that gets massive security aid, and you are saying, there are no dangers to our freedoms and liberties? You must be the new i-generation where they expect all of society to bend over for them and celebrate their identity and existence.

            You have no idea about the dangers of fascism and communism, and how quickly that can turn half of society against the other half. Millions gave their lives so you can be free, and you have the arrogance to tell us there is no danger to civilization? You need to become Amir of Gaza Strip, and learn some life lessons.

              • oh, and btw, your own government is calling the Russians enemies. Just thought you should know, since you have an unshakable trust in them. I struggle to wonder how you resolve that within yourself

              • “cultural mistrust” What the hack is that? It is not that we mistrust the US government as constituted today. But it is under stress to impose more socialism on the country, and that can lead to communism or fascism. What we mistrust is the extremists to take over the government and treating the rest of us like slaves. And we mistrust the monocapitalists who wish to impose state capitalism. Do you know how Hitler took over Germany? How about how Lenin took over Russia? It behooves you to study some history before you accuse 330 million Americans of being deranged or American culture of being depraved, and before you put in blind faith with the government. Freedom has a cost. Despite Las Vegas, no thinking American is insane enough to demand the closing of open society, and doing away with our liberties. But you will not understand that because you have no idea with liberty is and why it is valuable. You were brought up in socialism and never questioned your parents or teachers.

              • Despite Las Vegas, no thinking American is insane enough to demand the closing of open society, and doing away with our liberties

                Yet you managed to do it anyway, especially in the wake of 911

            • You have no idea about the dangers of fascism and communism, and how quickly that can turn half of society against the other half.

              It’s fascinating how right wingers can hold both a distrust of the state and hold such reverence to the national security state ar the same time. The threat of fascism and communism are only going to be a threat from the top down.

              • “The threat of fascism and communism are only going to be a threat from the top down.” — Ahem — why don’t you study Bolshevism and Nazism. Neither were top-down. They came from a subset of radicalized ideological masses who wanted an inversion of society, who gradually took over the state and its security forces, by targeting them. Once the security forces were neutralized, they shut down democracy, and the rest is history.

                Amazing – you have a university degree, and you write such nonsense? What you wrote top-sown is standard leftie echo-chamber fake narrative.

              • Ahem — why don’t you study Bolshevism and Nazism. Neither were top-down. They came from a subset of radicalized ideological masses who wanted an inversion of society, who gradually took over the state and its security forces, by targeting them.

                You evidently have never come across the definition of facism, which to some extent, already exists in the US where coportatipons and government are practically one and the same.

          • “This is a cultural thing. Fear from the other is in your blood.”

            From the country thats been arguing for the last 50 or so years that they are surrounded by enemies. Seems more like fear is in your blood. Go hang out in lebanon and be sure to let everyone know your an Israeli. Nothing to worry about there…

          • Amir you are simply just ignorant and you show a total lack of knowledge. Keep this socialista bs for yourself or pop of to Belarus or Venezuela. To easy speaking like this whilst enjoyoing the western life.

            • The US is not the epicentre of the western life Caligola. Sooner or later You are going to have to come to terms with the fact your crumbling empire is not the hub of western civilisation

              • Nobody, even Americans are claiming that the US is hub of civilization. In many ways Europe and east Asia are ahead. Who knows, soon the Indians will become the hub of civilization, whatever that means. Americans do welcome that.

              • I never intended to say that the US is the epicentre of the western civilization. At all. My point to Amir was simply that its easy for him to speak shit of the US whilst living the western life. Maybe if he goes in Belarus or some other commie country which embraces all the dear values Amir thinks these regimes have and he supports…….

              • It sure as shit isn’t Australia, who nobody even cares about. Not really Europe for that matter either. It’s not European restaurants you see in cities across the world. It’s not European supermarkets who operate in places like China ie. It’s not Australian cinema you see playing on big screens everywhere and raking in millions. Americans don’t sit around and play European video games. It’s not Europe who has also spread sports such as basketball and baseball on a global scale. I could give a million examples, but you’ll probably miss the point as usual. Hell even American adversaries such as North Korea can’t get enough.

              • My point to Amir was simply that its easy for him to speak shit of the US whilst living the western life.

                US policies and western lifestyle are not even remotely related, so your zero sum game is a non sequitir. In fact, most western countries regularly criticise the US. One could argue that US foreign policy is antithetical to western values.

              • It sure as shit isn’t Australia, who nobody even cares about.

                Better than being universally despised and considered the greatest threat to world peace.

                It’s not European restaurants you see in cities across the world.

                1. There’s no such thing as US cuisine. I suspect you don’t understand what a restaurant is.
                2. What US supermarkets are operating in China?
                3. Video games? Wow, that’s deep.
                4. The biggest game in the world is soccer. Of the top 6 world sports, none are American
                http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html

  2. US forces ‘helping Isis terror group in Syria,’ says Russia
    http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-80c3-US-forces-helping-Isis-terror-group-in-Syria,-says-Russia 10/5/2017

    Convicted Turkish General Says ISIS is a Hoax & helps Kurds
    http://www.corduene.eu/2016/05/07/convicted-turkish-general-says-isis-is-a-hoax/ 5/7/2016

    Left-nationalist firebrand Perinçek says that an operation will soon be carried out against FETÖ-sympathising AKP MPs https://t.co/rDlOg0QdsH
    https://twitter.com/06JAnk/status/915524629350973441 10/4/2017

  3. Message from Rojava apoists to western anarchists: the anarchist movement is failing because it’s divorced itself from society, disorganized and undisciplined. It’s not a revolutionary movement right now
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/6tex2g/message_from_rojava_apoists_to_western_anarchists/ 8/13/2017

    .@gombacci in Raqqa (#Syria): “These Christian fighting women taking up arms against #Daesh and fighting along side men, have done so far much more for women’s right than decades of Western feminism” https://t.co/l0QKOoccII
    https://twitter.com/theEUpost/status/914875221043286016 10/2/2017

    What is democratic confederalism?

    1. ideological movement
    2. opposes the state as mechanical world view
    3. nature is divine
    4. we need to restore balance between internal (subjective) and external (material) worlds.
    5. freedom comes from reaching our destiny as spiritually uplifted humans (driven), not pleasure seeking
    6. liberalism is the destruction of society
    7. a better humanity is a stronger, freer humanity, not simply happier
    8. the crisis in the west is not simply economic, but a social crisis
    9. this is a cultural issue not an ethnic one
    10. women’s liberation is fundamental (but feminism is a failure)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/rojava/comments/70jh90/im_writing_a_pamphlet_to_raise_awareness_of/dn7id4p/?context=3 9/19/2017

    • “the anarchist movement is failing because it’s divorced itself from society”

      Ignorance at its finest. Anarchism by definition is against “society”.

      “What is democratic confederalism?”

      Basically, in a strict senses another Utopia (from collins, “no place, from Greek ou not + topos a place” or better any idealized place, state, or situation of perfection, any visionary scheme or system for an ideally perfect society).

      Will be an epic fail.

    • “Nature is divine” — The religion of environmentalism rears its ugly head. And then these idiot “Bookchin self-administration” people claim to be secular? Secular means that you abide by the rules of logic and science. You don’t replace one religion with an equally stupid mystical religion and force it on people.

    • EXACTLY — “These Christian fighting women taking up arms against #Daesh and fighting along side men, have done so far much more for women’s right than decades of Western feminism”

    • “1- ideological movement”

      Gosh, with this first step, you have already lost the plot. Ideology means a set of idealisms that a group irrationally, and not empirically, believes in as being the best of all things, and hence wants to impose that on others by force (always with a side benefit for themselves).

      Ideology is for backward nations and stupid minds. What makes you think your frikkin ideology is superior to all other ideologies? When you close the mind with ideology, what makes you any better than an Islamic religious fundamentalist? And then Apo wants to reconcile subjectivism with objectivism? An ideological subjectivist in power is as dangerous as Hitler or Lenin.

  4. Andre, its sad that Scott spends time editing my posts, otherwise, I’d let you know how boring you have become. I am hopeful that you will actually come up with some good counter points that allow for an actual debate and not your usual inconsistent, illogical, non-sensical talking points provided by Vlady and the yes men. Cause, I really could use some good entertainment. You need to step it up. Its become all too predictable. So, show us what the Russian bullshit machine has in the way of the ridiculousness. Its almost become pure fantasy. I like fantasy, like lord of the rings. If you could put your responses in terms of elves and hobbits I think that would add a great twist

    • Ha ha ha …

      You know I was in Sydney and Brisbane a few months ago. When in Sydney I actually searched for Andre De Angelis in the construction trade directories. Wanted to take him out for a beer. No such person to be found.

      • You know I was in Sydney and Brisbane a few months ago. When in Sydney I actually searched for Andre De Angelis in the construction trade directories.

        Not surprising. I am involved in interiors and design side.

        He never speaks of Australia because he has never been there.

        Evidently you weren’t paying much attention when one of your ilk began trolling my Facebook page and discussing my family and where I live. What more evidence do you need of my residence?

    • Andre, its sad that Scott spends time editing my posts, otherwise, I’d let you know how boring you have become.

      I don’d mind being boring Matt, so long as I am right.

      It’s laughable ti hear you complain about negative stereoptypes while you gratuitously employ them to malign Russia.

      • “I don’d mind being boring Matt, so long as I am right.” — Hahahha — but you are rarely right on controversial matters. So now do you mind being boring?

      • You’re not right. You’re never right about anything. Everything you post is 100% unsupported bullshit you picked up from Russian propaganda, which is why I hate even responding the drivel you post.

    • Maybe I should take what I said above back. He does belong to Australia. Did some research.

      Purely a product of the leftie echo-chambers there, in school and jobs.

      Hey Andre, have you heard of Hunter Douglas? I have a funny story to tell you.

      • Yes I am more than familiar with Hunter Douglass and do my best to avoid their products given what a crap company they are.

        Purely a product of the leftie echo-chambers there, in school and jobs.

        You really have not moved on from the days of McCarthy have you? I actually migrated here when I was 10 from Europe.

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