Political WorldView;s Adam Quinn and Scott Lucas are joined by University of Birmingham colleague Sumedh Rao to take on the specific issue of the struggle for Catalonian independence and then the struggle over “tribalism”.

We discuss whether there is a political way of the escalating conflict between Spain and Catalonia, with Madrid threatening to impose direct rule on the autonomous region. Then we have a forthright exchange about declarations of “tribalism”, including Andrew Sullivan’s Trump-era jeremiad, and whether they are constructive or unhelpful in dealing with the current political, economic, and social challenges.

In between, the Number of the Week ranges from gangs in Virginia to an Iranian general in Iraqi Kurdistan.

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