John Everard, the former British Ambassador to Pyongyang, and I joined Monocle 24’s The Globalist on Monday morning to discuss the challenge of North Korea’s latest nuclear test.

We discussed North Korean motives for the 120-kiloton detonation, Donald Trump’s reaction — at one point, prompting a bit of mirth over the US President’s Twitter diplomacy — and China’s key position.

Listen to Discussion from 2:10