Podcast: Should Trump Be Given A State Visit to UK?

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Donald Trump holds hands with UK Prime Minister Theresa May at the White House, January 2017

Chatter is still abundant in the UK about a State visit by Donald Trump to the country, even though it is unlikely to happen before he leaves, or is forced out of, office.

On BBC Three Countries Radio on Thursday, I had a lively debate with John Bickley, the immigration spokesperson for the UK Independence Party, about the issues — or, in this case, the issues vs. the diversions from them — around rewarding Trump even amid controversies about his positions and statements on white supremacy, women, minorities, immigrants, Russia, torture and much more.

Listen to Discussion

If you go beyond the issues to give Donald Trump his ceremony, you are rewarding a man who has backed white supremacy, who has in effect endorsed the violence of white supremacy, who has endorsed torture, who has been divisive through his language towards people of color, who has been hostile towards Europeans over NATO but who has been friendly with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Now is this the type of person you want to bring over using the mantra of the Anglo-American “special relationship”?

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  1. Yes, Der TrumpenFührer should be punished by being forced to visit Britain whereas the British should be punished by having to receive him … they richly deserve each other!

    Bring it on!

  2. Lol, so much for the kurdish pseudo anti-imperialism

    Exclusive: U.S. forces to stay in Syria for decades, say militia allies:

    “Washington’s main Syrian ally in the fight against Islamic State says the U.S. military will remain in northern Syria long after the jihadists are defeated, predicting enduring ties with the Kurdish-dominated region.

    The U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), an alliance of militias dominated by the Kurdish YPG, believes the United States has a “strategic interest” in staying on, SDF spokesman Talal Silo told Reuters.”

    “They have a strategy policy for decades to come. There will be military, economic and political agreements in the long term between the leadership of the northern areas (of Syria) … and the U.S. administration,” Silo said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-exclusive-idUSKCN1AX1RI

  3. Trump is most definitely a racist. Ever seen him eat an Oreo? He breaks it open, licks out the delicious white cream and throws away the black wafer. Appalling.

  4. Erdogan’s thugs had better behave in NYC

    By Post Editorial Board August 30, 2017 | 6:51pm […]

    Authorities down in DC have now indicted a total of 19 people in the May 19 attack on a peaceful protest against Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan — including 15 of Erdogan’s bodyguards.

    The goons waded into a crowd of mainly Kurdish- and Armenian-American demonstrators, hospitalizing nine. Sixteen attackers were charged back in June; the three new additions are all Turkish security officials.

    Most remain at large back in Turkey. They’ll be hard to bring to justice: Erdogan has plenty of other thugs he can bring along to New York City for next month’s UN General Assembly.

    A warning to the sultan’s goons: Don’t try this when you face fresh protests here.
    http://nypost.com/2017/08/30/erdogans-thugs-better-behave-in-nyc/ 8/30/2017

    Take a stand against dictatorship and protest Turkish President Erdogan when he comes to the United Nations in September!

    The Turkish state has committed crimes against the Kurdish people for decades, and Erdogan himself has overseen the destruction of Kurdish cities, the imprisonment of HDP parliamentarians, unprovoked attacks on Rojava, and more. The last time he was in the United States, his bodyguards attacked peaceful protestors in violation of our First Amendment on US soil. And while ISIS attacks peaceful European cities, rather than fight ISIS, Turkey attacked the Syrian Kurdish town of Afrin, which is home to refugees and internally displaced people due to its relative stability.

    We must take a stand against Erdogan and Turkish aggression, and show the world that he is not welcome in the United States and his crimes will not be forgotten.
    https://www.facebook.com/events/1959953384222948/ 8/20/2017

    Erdoğan currently stands accused of committing war crimes and systematic human rights abuses; including arresting the head of Amnesty International Turkey. As CommonSpace reports:

    ‘The Turkish government has been condemned by the European Court of Human Rights for numerous human rights abuses of Kurdish civilians, including torture and forced displacements, and systematic arrests of political dissenters.’

    At the same time, there is debate across the EU about removing the PKK from the union’s terrorism list. Both MEPs and lawyers have called for the change.

    Back in Britain, however, MPs have accused Theresa May’s government of putting business interests before human rights in Turkey. In January, for example, May visited Turkey to negotiate a £100m deal to help Erdoğan develop fighter jets. And between July and September 2016, the UK sold Turkey: £26m-worth of armoured plate, body armour and helmets; £8.5m-worth of aircraft, helicopters and drones; and almost £4m-worth of licences for missiles, bombs and “counter-measures”. As one of the world’s largest arms fairs gets underway in London, meanwhile, Turkey is down as one of the main sponsors.
    https://www.thecanary.co/2017/09/04/scottish-police-accused-acting-behalf-racist-foreign-government/ 9/4/2017

  5. How UK arms sales are helping Erdogan build a self-reliant dictatorship in Turkey. morningstaronline.co.uk/a-17b3-Aiding-… https://t.co/MhaANbhO5a #StopDSEI
    https://twitter.com/CAATuk/status/899570819952672768 8/21/2017

    Senate Blocks US Weapons Sales to Erdogan’s Security. UK STOP ARMS SALES TO #ERDOGAN! #StopDSEI #stopthearmsfair washingtonhattius.com/2017/09/07/sen… https://t.co/AJatrqzD7D https://t.co/jRpWjVOAqf
    https://twitter.com/Hevallo/status/905970396641538049 9/7/2017

    UK’s Petrofac to build TurkStream natural gas terminal, first deal since US sanctions

    London (Platts)–5 Sep 2017 931 am EDT/1331 GMT […]

    So far, investors in both TurkStream and Nord Stream 2 have shrugged off the US sanctions law that was passed by US President Donald Trump on August 2.

    With the sanctions bill now law, Trump has the power — but not the obligation — to impose measures against any company that invests in or provides services above certain values for Russian energy export pipelines.
    https://www.platts.com/latest-news/natural-gas/london/uks-petrofac-to-build-turkstream-natural-gas-26798980 9/5/2017

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