Podcasts: North Korea — This Ain’t No “All-Out War”

The discussion includes consideration of the American catalyst that turned Pyongyang’s routine poking into a crisis, and of the essential role of China in a step back from confrontation — “the person separating two guys fighting in a bar”.

Listen to Discussion on BBC WM

I’m not prepared to go into the bunker just yet. We’ve heard this type of talk from the North Koreans for years — there’s nothing new in the chest-thumping and the “we will hit back with a ‘sea of fire’ if you attack us”.

What is different this time has been the US public response. The question was, “How far would the US go?”, but right now people are trying to divert this into political and diplomatic maneuvers, especially the Chinese.

Listen to Discussion on BBC Radio Scotland

You don’t bring North Korea to heel by threatening military force. It just isn’t going to happen.

You’ve got two options. You step up sanctions — and there you need the Chinese to participate — or, eventually, you’ve got to talk to them.

TOP PHOTO: Vice President Mike Pence in South Korea on Monday

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Scott Lucas is Professor of International Politics at the University of Birmingham and editor-in-chief of EA WorldView. He is a specialist in US and British foreign policy and international relations, especially the Middle East and Iran. Formerly he worked as a journalist in the US, writing for newspapers including the Guardian and The Independent and was an essayist for The New Statesman before he founded EA WorldView in November 2008.

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