In this week’s Political WorldView podcast, we take on two world leaders with very different approaches, looking at Pope Francis’ pontificating in the US and Vladimir Putin’s bluster and bombing in crises from Ukraine to Syria.

Between the Pope and Putin, there are the Numbers of the Week: what do 785, 20 million, and 11 million mean for the world?

The panel is Adam Quinn, Christalla Yakinthou, and Scott Lucas of the University of Birmingham.